{"id":381,"date":"2011-06-03T18:29:08","date_gmt":"2011-06-03T17:29:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/wrestlingview.co.uk\/?p=381"},"modified":"2011-06-13T14:07:01","modified_gmt":"2011-06-13T13:07:01","slug":"big-cal-reviews-sting-vs-vader-feud-part-1-of-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/wrestlingview.co.uk\/?p=381","title":{"rendered":"Big Cal Reviews: Sting Vs Vader Feud (part 1 of 4)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>At the beginning of the year, I posted a list of my<a title=\"Permanent Link: Big Cal\u2019s Top 100 WWF\/E Matches Ever!\" rel=\"bookmark\" href=\"..\/?p=270\"> Top 100 WWF\/E Matches Ever<\/a>. I was able to come up with that list after a little over a year of watching, reviewing and talking about as many WWF\/E matches as I possibly could. Now I&#8217;m doing it all over again&#8230; but for WCW! I&#8217;ve already watched a LOT of stuff and got a small list together, and figured I&#8217;d start posting some of the reviews on here for everyone to see, so you can understand my top 100 list a little better when I post it, unlike my WWF\/E list which was pretty much finished up before I opened this site lol. So, to get things rolling&#8230; here are my reviews for a bunch of matches relating to the epic Sting Vs Vader feud from the early 90&#8217;s!<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Sting vs Vader (Power Hour, 15\/2\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Vader  is his usual cocky self at the beginning, claiming that Sting can\u2019t  move him. He then proceeds to pummel Sting for a moment before Sting  fired back and levels him with a clothesline! Vader rolls out and Sting  follows, which ends up being a mistake as Vader crushes him right in  front of a group of little kids who are no doubt Sting fans. LOL. I hope  they cried.<\/p>\n<p>The better part of this match is what you would  expect; plenty of Vader demolishing his opponent. I don\u2019t think I could  tire of Vader killing people. Sting goes for a scoop slam near the end  of the match, but Vader just stands there and doesn\u2019t move, then grabs  Sting for a suplex to show his power, only to be reversed and gets  launched by Sting and a German Suplex!!!<\/p>\n<p>The match ends up on the outside, where Vader runs into the ring post and Sting gets back in the ring to win via countout.<\/p>\n<p>Short sub 10 minute TV match, but really good and a nice taste of what is to come later on from these two.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rating: **3\/4<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Sting &#8211; Vader confrontation (Power Hour, 21\/3\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>After  a Sting match, Vader comes in to kill Sting. Sting uses a chair on  Vader who just looks at Sting as if he was stupid. Sting runs up the  ropes and dives off, only to get caught in a powerslam and then a  splash. Man, if Vader killing someone as overrated as Sting doesn\u2019t make  you a fan of the guy, then you should just die now because your life  isn\u2019t going to get any better. MOAR destruction of Sting, including a  spash from the second rope, before the babyface locker room empties to  make the save. Figured I\u2019d talk about all the non matches on this set  too as I\u2019m sure they all have implications on future matches and shit.  There is also an interview the week later that isn\u2019t listed but rather  thrown onto the end of this beat down segment. Vader just tells Sting  that he fears no man and feels no pain, but Sting will experience pain  when they get into the ring next time.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Vader vs Marcus Bagwell (Power Hour, 18\/4\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>BUFF do do do do do do DADDY!<\/p>\n<p>Yeah,  Vader kills the kid. I don\u2019t think ANYONE (and if anyone else can think  of an answer other than Vader for this, please, pleeease tell me) can  have squash matches as good as Vader. His offence is just so amazing  during them that instead of a low rating like \u201c1\/4*\u201d for them like I  have done so many times in the past for various squash matches, Vader  can have * squash matches or better. Maybe I\u2019m biased, but man, Vader  killing anyone for 2 minutes is greater than most current main eventers  PPV matches.<\/p>\n<p>Oh, and Jesse singing on Commentary after Vader sets him up for a second rope splash:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cBye bye Roookie, so long rooooookie\u201d<\/p>\n<p>After  the match Sting comes out to save Bagwell from more pain, and Vader  challenges Sting to get in the ring. Vader jumps him the moment he gets  in there, but Sting fights back and actually sends Vader packing!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rating: *<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Sting Interview (WCWSN, 27\/6\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Not  just one interview here, but multiple from Sting over a couple of  weeks. Nothing worth noting. He just talks about how he knows Vader is a  threat but he isn\u2019t letting his little Stingers down.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Sting vs Vader (Great American Bash, 12\/7\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Vader  starts things off by clubbing Sting in the corner over and over again  despite the referee&#8217;s attempt to get him out lol. Sting runs into Vader  with a clothesline and just bounces off.<\/p>\n<p>But the World Champ  isn&#8217;t going to give up, and after missing a Vader Splash in the corner,  Sting hits a missive back suplex, then follows up with a couple of  clotheslines, with the second sending Vader over the ropes! Vader may be  big and powerful, but Sting is establishing himself as the World  Champion who can perhaps beat anyone put in front of him.<\/p>\n<p>Sting  keeps his advantage for a little while, and throws Vader around with  some right hands, a dropkick, and a huge suplex from the apron to the  inside! Vader doesn&#8217;t seem to understand what is going on, because he is  supposed to be the big powerful monster, yet he is getting bounced  around!<\/p>\n<p>Its not his strength that finally puts the big man in the  driving seat, but his weight. Sting goes for a sunset flip, Vader sits  on him, and the champ is in real trouble!<\/p>\n<p>Interesting to see  Vader completely change his game plan from trying to pummel Sting at the  start of the match (which didn&#8217;t go as well as he planned) to grounding  him and even locking in Sting&#8217;s own Scorpion Death Lock! Then when  Sting is in trouble, Vader can afford to go back to what brought him to  the dance; power and brutal, stiff shots.<\/p>\n<p>Sting&#8217;s comeback is ok,  nothing spectacular, but nice and focused with shots to the head, and  then a great display of power with a Samoan Drop and then a German  Suplex! Had the referee not been knocked down by Sting just before the  German, Vader might have been beat!!!<\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"LMAO\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wrestlingelite.co.uk\/forum\/images\/smilies\/roflmao.gif\" alt=\":lmao\" \/> at Sting. He goes for a Stinger Splash, but Vader is bent over  backwards in the corner (LOL). Sting flies in for the splash&#8230; and goes  head first into ring post, causing him to be almost knocked out as well  as bleeding. Vader then powerbombs Sting to finish him off, and we have  a NEW champion!<\/p>\n<p>Good match here. Nothing amazing, but still good  and worth everyone&#8217;s time to watch. Sting hitting the ring post was  kinda retarded though, made Sting look stupid in defeat because he  knocked himself out from doing his signature move <img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Razz\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wrestlingelite.co.uk\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":p\" \/>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rating: ***1\/4<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Sting Interview (WCWSN, 25\/7\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>He\u2019s  just lost the world title, so hey, let\u2019s talk to him! He makes excuses  as to why he\u2019s so stupid as to hit his head on the ring post going for  his signature move that he\u2019s hit a billion times before. Aside from  trying to not make himself look stupid (and failing tbh), he does a good  job of explaining the rest of the match and whatnot, and makes me want  to see a rematch reaaal bad.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Sting, Steiners &amp; Ivan Koloff vs Vader, Rick Rude, Jake Roberts &amp; Super Invader (2\/9\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Elimination style baby!<\/p>\n<p>Any match with Vader getting overhead belly to belly suplexed deserves to be considered for my top 100 <img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Razz\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wrestlingelite.co.uk\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":p\" \/>.<\/p>\n<p>Rick  and Scott dominate for a little while, taking out Vader then Super  Invader, before Rude makes a blind take and decks Scotty Steiner and  brings control to his team. There isn\u2019t a lengthy FIP segment from  Scott, which I guess is ok right now as its elimination rules and with 8  minutes left nobody has been eliminated yet lol.<\/p>\n<p>Oh hey, Koloff is in the match. Oh hey, Koloff gets eliminated. LOL. Thanks for coming Ivan.<\/p>\n<p>Sting  gets revenge by eliminating Super Invader less than a minute later.  That\u2019s it, get the trash out of the way so we can have a decent match.<\/p>\n<p>HOLY  FUCKING SHIT at the German from Rick to Vader. I\u2019m not sure if Vader  even jumped on that one; Steiner just fucking THREW him and he went  flying. I\u2019ve seen Rey take German\u2019s with less air time that THAT.<\/p>\n<p>With  some of the dead weight gone, Rick Steiner takes a beating for a couple  of minutes which is probably about as long as you are gonna get for a  control segment in this match given the time it\u2019s got and the amount of  people in there needing to be eliminated.<\/p>\n<p>Scott Steiner gets  eliminated in the most BULLSHIT way&#8230; DQ\u2019d for coming off the top rope.  But at least it was during a Doomsday Device attempt (on VADER).<\/p>\n<p>With  just a few minutes left things get crazy and Sting ends up being the  last man on his team. Vader gets DQ\u2019s for coming off the top rope too  (my god what a dumb fucking rule), where he crushes Sting AND Rude (by  accident), leaving Jake alone to DDT Sting for the win!<\/p>\n<p>Was  hoping for more here, but they didn\u2019t get enough time given all the men  involved, which lead to some shitty eliminations and more craziness than  good old TAG~! Action. Still can\u2019t complain too much, it was boatloads  of fun.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rating: **1\/2<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Sting &amp; Ron Simmons vs. Vader &amp; Rick Rude (WCWSN, 5\/12\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>So this match is to build to Starrcade, where Rude will face Simmons for the belt and Vader will take on Sting again.<\/p>\n<p>Some  real nice exchanges between Rude and Simmons in the early going. The  spot where Simmons goes for a clothesline that probably had all of his  power behind, and Rude ducks and looks like he just escaped death is  awesome. Nice way to set up the whole power game of Simmons vs the  quickness of Rude leading into the PPV match.<\/p>\n<p>Once Rude tags out,  it looks like we might get Vader Vs Simmons&#8230; but nope; Simmons tags  out straight away to let Sting get him some of his Starrcade opponent,  which leads to some even better exchanges between Sting and Vader. Nice  that we are getting to see 2 separate matches here but also a little odd  to give so much away just before a PPV rather than keeping everyone  away from their Starrcade opponent and then building to 2 of them  getting in the ring at the same time.<\/p>\n<p>After some Starrcade  teasers and shit, Sting takes a turn at being the FIP and Vader and Rude  do a great job of wearing him down, while Sting sticks to selling the  beating for a while rather than trying to body press slam everyone in  sight over and over again lol.<\/p>\n<p>Luckily Sting makes a hot tag to  Simmons rather than making a giant comeback himself (I HATE Sting\u2019s  comebacks btw), and Simmons charging in and levelling Vader with  clotheslines is awesome.<\/p>\n<p>Nice finish with Rude getting a big win going into the PPV, but through cheating so Simmons doesn\u2019t look weak. Great stuff here.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rating: ***1\/4<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Video Package (WCWSN, 19\/12\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Just  a video package going back to February where the feud started, and  showing everything that happened between them. Not a video masterpiece  like we see today, but it showed all the important shit that you need to  see.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\"><strong>Sting vs Vader (Starrcade, 28\/12\/1992)<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p>This match is to decide the King of Cable. Ummm&#8230; the fuck is that? <img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Razz\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wrestlingelite.co.uk\/forum\/images\/smilies\/icon_razz.gif\" alt=\":p\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Sting  tries to gain the early advantage, but ends up either being as  effective as The Rock trying to entertaining me or just gets run over by  Vader. But one rolling kick from Sting takes Vader down finally, and  Sting keeps the momentum going by knocking him down a few more times,  sending him to the outside and diving over the ropes to get to him. Nice  burst of offence from the Stinger as he tries to keep the big man down.<\/p>\n<p>We  then get some, well, heel hope spots I guess is the best way to  describe them lol, with Vader cutting Sting off, then losing the  advantage again, then cutting Sting off again before getting DDT\u2019d into  the mat or something as Sting remains in control. Vader doesn\u2019t know  what to think or even what to do, so he goes to the outside to take a  break, and it pays off as Sting follows him, goes for a Stinger Splash  and as usual, he flies ribs first into the guardrail. How many times  does he do that lol? I know plenty of guys have a particular way of  setting up their own FIP segment, but I gotta say, I kinda hate Sting\u2019s  lol. Just another thing I can\u2019t stand when it comes to the guy.<\/p>\n<p>So  with Sting hurt, it\u2019s time for Vader to go all VADER~! on Sting.  Monstrous clotheslines, epic rights and lefts, and plenty of splashes  too.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of rights and lefts, around 15 minutes in Vader  turns the match into a boxing match, and good god does he ever cave the  shit out of Sting\u2019s face. Perhaps the best example of Vader being a  great puncher.<\/p>\n<p>Sting takes all the punches like a champ, and  similar to the Steamboat match from \u201993, Sting seems to be taking the  \u201cRocky\u201d approach to fighting the bigger, stronger opponent. Sure, it\u2019s  not as good as when Steamboat did it, but considering my contempt for  Sting it\u2019s still a really great part of the match.<\/p>\n<p>Finish sees  Sting catch Vader coming off the ropes into a powerslam for the 3 count.  Not really a fan of the ending tbh, but the rest of the match was  great. Definitely better than their GAB match, and should stay on my  list. Might drop as I watch more stuff, but it\u2019s likely to remain.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rating: ***3\/4<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At the beginning of the year, I posted a list of my Top 100 WWF\/E Matches Ever. I was able to come up with that list after a little over a year of watching, reviewing and talking about as many WWF\/E matches as I possibly could. 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